DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Re: DA to stay on as Manager

Postby Keith » Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:10 pm

Keith wrote:Derek's post match interview today was full of 'frustration', bordering on anger, saying something like 'they up there, haven't got a plan for next season', so something may have gone on?


"Where do you start for next season?"
"This is where the problem lies. The Board of Directors, the owner, need to start planning. They don't have a plan. And until they get a plan, then we've got a problem.They are the ones who are the custodians of this football club... ...it is their responsibility, from up high, to give us a plan going forward, for where they want to take this football club..."
"You've got your plans, it a case for someone else to"

[Interrupting] "I can't have my plans. Until there is a plan from up there, I can't have a plan. They are the ones who need to start having a plan. And until they've got a plan, we've got a problem".

The entire interview, Derek is clearly passionate and frustrated.

https://x.com/i/status/1916173608834998290
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Re: Same story different season

Postby Valkyrie_Wings » Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:11 pm

Could we merge that with DA staying on?
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Re: Same story different season

Postby Billy bodger » Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:15 pm

Well one more game next week and I’m done till we get a new owner. What can anybody do till we are sold? Call it what you want, not bothered!

No one should be under the illusion that our board can not do anything other than patch up and hope like hell things somehow turn around.

What manager wants to work under the shackles of having little or at times no money?

Who and what level of player will we be able to attract?

Who can blame those who stay away if the ownership issue is not resolved or those who, God Bless ‘Em! who continue to go. It’s a hard call to have to take.

Sell and I’ll be back, otherwise NAPM.
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Re: DA to stay on as Manager

Postby black morse » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:43 pm

Keith wrote:
Keith wrote:Derek's post match interview today was full of 'frustration', bordering on anger, saying something like 'they up there, haven't got a plan for next season', so something may have gone on?


"Where do you start for next season?"
"This is where the problem lies. The Board of Directors, the owner, need to start planning. They don't have a plan. And until they get a plan, then we've got a problem.They are the ones who are the custodians of this football club... ...it is their responsibility, from up high, to give us a plan going forward, for where they want to take this football club..."
"You've got your plans, it a case for someone else to"

[Interrupting] "I can't have my plans. Until there is a plan from up there, I can't have a plan. They are the ones who need to start having a plan. And until they've got a plan, we've got a problem".

The entire interview, Derek is clearly passionate and frustrated.

https://x.com/i/status/1916173608834998290


Things have to come to a head in the next 2 months. We cannot go on as we are or we will probably have no club come the start of the season. Derek has every reason to be angry. How the Board can keep coming up with the same story I do not know. Time after time the idea that we are closer than ever to a sale has proved to be false. Yes the false information is coming from Jason but how the board can pass it on to the fans in the hope of placating them is beyond belief. Fewer and fewer fans are believing it!
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Re: DA to stay on as Manager

Postby Billy bodger » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:46 pm

I posted this on another thread at 6:15, perhaps I should have posted it on this one, seeing what’s been posted on here since 7:34???

Billy bodger wrote:Well one more game next week and I’m done till we get a new owner. What can anybody do till we are sold? Call it what you want, not bothered!

No one should be under the illusion that our board can not do anything other than patch up and hope like hell things somehow turn around.

What manager wants to work under the shackles of having little or at times no money?

Who and what level of player will we be able to attract?

Who can blame those who stay away if the ownership issue is not resolved or those who, God Bless ‘Em! who continue to go. It’s a hard call to have to take.

Sell and I’ll be back, otherwise NAPM.
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Re: Same story different season

Postby Lurchy » Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:00 pm

redrobo wrote:Seems to be a contradiction somewhere. Lancaster Guardian said DA?was already working with his Recruutment guy towards next season. Andcyet in thua highly personal and emotional interview he says that he can't have any plans until the BoDs and the owner get their acts together. I'm confused.


Would suggest he has his targets but no idea of whether they will be attainable due to no set budget yet
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Re: Same story different season

Postby Wild Bill » Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:51 pm

My interpretation of this week's media snippets from Derek and the board. Derek wants to stay and already has his own plans. The board may also have plans but may have not yet told Derek or Derek doesn't agree with them. Derek has gone public to put pressure on the board prior to meeting the board. The board are undecided on Derek or have been instructed to cut costs and not continue with his rolling contract. It will be an interesting week.
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Re: Same story different season

Postby Valkyrie_Wings » Sat Apr 26, 2025 10:47 pm

Meeting is before the game on Saturday
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Re: Same story different season

Postby Keith » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:32 am

Wild Bill wrote:My interpretation of this week's media snippets from Derek and the board. Derek wants to stay and already has his own plans. The board may also have plans but may have not yet told Derek or Derek doesn't agree with them. Derek has gone public to put pressure on the board prior to meeting the board. The board are undecided on Derek or have been instructed to cut costs and not continue with his rolling contract. It will be an interesting week.


I'm thinking similar. In my guessed scenario, Derek has identified the players that he wants to keep, and had conversations with them, but the Board then told him there is no budget agreed, and everyone will be released, until a budget can be set.
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Re: Same story different season

Postby Keith » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:35 am

Valkyrie_Wings wrote:Could we merge that with DA staying on?


Yes, they are very similar, so better together.
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby Billy bodger » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:59 am

The BODs relationship with Whittingham must be nil. They must have stopped trying to talk to the guy and and are just going around sticking plasters all over the cracks while the place crumbles.

It won’t change because Whittingham won’t change, he has played them and used them to the point that thou everyone know’s that Rod and all the others Directors try their best for the Club, they have failed to stop the rot and decline.

How can you work under those circumstances? Why would anyone take up their options of playing for us next season or anyone think of joining a club who is owned by Whittingham?

The National League will not be a stroll in the park, we need a manager who knows how to run a successful team that can perform week in week out we will need the caliber player not only just a good as this season but better, especially if we are wanting a Club that can push towards coming straight back up.

So it’s not so much that a budget will at some point be agreed, (however big or small that may be!!!), it’s the continuation of Whittingham owning the Club and we continuing on the downward spiral against all the hope things on the pitch will turn around and stability will be found within the Club.
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby black morse » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:13 am

If Derek has to go (for whatever reason) the Board should also consider resigning.
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby Old Man Kensey » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:21 am

black morse wrote:If Derek has to go (for whatever reason) the Board should also consider resigning.


They should of all walked months and months ago.
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby Keith » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:27 am

Old Man Kensey wrote:
black morse wrote:If Derek has to go (for whatever reason) the Board should also consider resigning.

They should of all walked months and months ago.


I suppose their position is the same as ours. We have a choice of supporting NaPM campaign, or carry on, hoping against hope that we can hold it together long enough for Shittingham to go. The Board could resign en-masse and force a situation that could ultimately destroy the club, or, force Shittingham to go, but it would be a gamble, or, keep going, also hoping against hope that we will still have something left once he goes. Neither decision is a good one, so they are faced with 'which one is least shit'?
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby Old Man Kensey » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:56 am

Maybe Derek will get the famous offer of a brew and a chat from Rod?
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby deadorred70 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:59 am

Don't be surprised if Carlisle get rid of Hughes and come sniffing around after our Derek.
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby Redalert1970 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:05 pm

Will be interesting to see if Derek is on the bench next week against Harrogate
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby redrobo » Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:03 pm

DA in the Lancaster Guardian did confirm that at this coming Thursday's Board meeting that would be told the budget foe Season 2025/26. So I'm surprised in his post match interview how critical he was of the current state of play.

Is it possible that all his emotions of the past season finally took its toll and his response was an over reaction to the way things are and have been during his current and past tenure of our club. :?: :?: :?:
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby Redalert1970 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:28 pm

I may be the only one but I'm worried if we will even start next season with all this circus going on

Please guys don't take this great club away from myself and many many others
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby Billy bodger » Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:47 pm

redrobo wrote:DA in the Lancaster Guardian did confirm that at this coming Thursday's Board meeting that would be told the budget foe Season 2025/26. So I'm surprised in his post match interview how critical he was of the current state of play.

Is it possible that all his emotions of the past season finally took its toll and his response was an over reaction to the way things are and have been during his current and past tenure of our club. :?: :?: :?:


Rod & Graham said it won’t be set till after the end of the season, there is the discrepancy!
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby black morse » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:36 pm

redrobo wrote:DA in the Lancaster Guardian did confirm that at this coming Thursday's Board meeting that would be told the budget foe Season 2025/26. So I'm surprised in his post match interview how critical he was of the current state of play.

Is it possible that all his emotions of the past season finally took its toll and his response was an over reaction to the way things are and have been during his current and past tenure of our club. :?: :?: :?:


The anger that came from Derek was controlled anger and did not seem to me to be an over reaction. It was almost as if he'd decided to have his say before the interview started.
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Re: DA to Stay on as Manager/Same Story Different Season

Postby Keith » Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:31 pm

deadorred70 wrote:Don't be surprised if Carlisle get rid of Hughes and come sniffing around after our Derek.


Why would they get rid of Hughes? Three managers in the last season, and Hughes has got them on a decent run at the end of the season, almost grasping on to survival from a dreadful position. Their form over the last six matches would put them in the play-offs. Is there something else going on up there?
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