'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Do you support 'Not a Penny More' Campaign in season 2025/26?

Yes, regardless of League Two or National League.
11
55%
Yes, but only if relegated to National League.
2
10%
No, not under any circumstances.
7
35%
 
Total votes : 20

Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby marky No.1 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:14 am

It would just be nice to get someone who genuinely can buy the Club with the money actually available instead of these chancers who have to borrow everything to do it.
A well known celebrity type person would have people clambering to get on board and enjoy the ride.
They don't need to throw crazy amounts of money at it to improve the situation, just build a club with facilities that can pay for itself.
Just a shame we've already sold off our silverware
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby KenH » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:19 am

marky No.1 wrote:They don't need to throw crazy amounts of money at it to improve the situation, just build a club with facilities that can pay for itself.


That's what PMG tried to do and failed miserably due to sheer incompetence.

Someone famous with money is no guarantee of better financial management than PMG.

We need a proper entreprenneur to come in and shake everything up, get new income streams flowing, make far better use of our facilities, etc. Not a "sleb" with a bit of money.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Wild Bill » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:21 am

I am starting to lean towards NAPM. I will wait and see what comes next before the end of May. However, I think that Momi and his lack of credible funds is potentially a worse option for us than Whittingham.

Three options really:

1- Buy a season ticket before the end of May and hope for the best (no idea what the squad will be)
2 - Wait and see what happens and pay per game (would probably see fewer games)
3 - NAPM (we are basically screwed)

TBH none of these appeal to me in the slightest. I am always positive about MFC but right now I see no good outcome. It goes against my nature to not financially support the club and watch it get worse. Before, perhaps it eventually gets better.

For NAPM to work you need 60%+ of the fanbase doing it. Any less and we will just die a slow death.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Phil Anderer » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:44 am

All those around where I sit seem to be going to renew, and Mrs A wants to as well, so it looks like I'll be back next season, but won't rush. Leave it as late as poss to keep our seats.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Keith » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:08 am

black morse wrote:The one way out of our terrible predicament is if Tyson would take over the club. As has been proved with a number of other clubs investment by famous people leads to success and I'm sure that the investors have recouped at least some of their money from the documentaries that have been made. Tyson is the big name that could create this. I don't think it will happen but for those who still have hope for the future it would be fantastic if it did.


I doubt it will happen either, but I agree that it may actually be a good thing all-round. With him having his Netflix or whatever, 'fly on the wall' documentary, it would be a good opportunity for others who want to 'raise profile' by being involved with the club.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Valkyrie_Wings » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:46 am

since 2022 i saw the writing on the wall when Goldring got disqualified and the club was put up for sale by Whittingham, ive hardly been to games at home cause i knew a long long time ago that something wasnt right
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby al1 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:53 am

The board should have realised what would happen as soon as the problems at Worcester Warriors started!It was obvious then what sort of people we were dealing with,but they said 'nothing to see here' and we believed them!
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Valkyrie_Wings » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:59 am

al1 wrote:The board should have realised what would happen as soon as the problems at Worcester Warriors started!It was obvious then what sort of people we were dealing with,but they said 'nothing to see here' and we believed them!


that's what caused me to realise that they were asset strippers long time before NAPM movement began, we are only lucky that the Maz is protected by JB Christie's Trust
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby KenH » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:38 pm

Valkyrie_Wings wrote:
al1 wrote:The board should have realised what would happen as soon as the problems at Worcester Warriors started!It was obvious then what sort of people we were dealing with,but they said 'nothing to see here' and we believed them!


that's what caused me to realise that they were asset strippers long time before NAPM movement began, we are only lucky that the Maz is protected by JB Christie's Trust


Is it though? It will depend on the exact wording of the trust deeds. I'm sure I once read that it was basically preserved for sports facilities, so that could mean the whole site being taken over by, say, a local Rugby club, or the pitch alone used by a local amateur/young football team, i.e. Westgate Wanderers etc, with the buildings (owned by MFC Limited) being re-purposed to offices etc and not made available for spectators/changing rooms, etc?

Over the years, the loans have been secured by legal charges over the buildings on the site. The lenders wouldn't lend against that security if there wasn't an inherent resale value of the buildings, so that suggests that the "legal people" in the loan companies think that the buildings will have long term alternative uses besides and beyond whatever remains of Morecambe Football Club, i.e. converted etc to offices, a GP surgery, or whatever other uses the buildings could be put to.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Billy bodger » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:26 pm

Couldn’t the Christy Trust be bought out just like it was when it was in place at Christy Park. I don’t see any sports facilities at Sainsburys!! A plaque in the Car Park. The Trust was Transferred to the new ground and so why can it not be done again?

Trusts like this are bought out quite often, they do however in the main have to be replaced/moved elsewhere, so the Trust lives on. Sports ground will have to be moved somewhere else.

It’s problematic but from what I understand its doable.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Wild Bill » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:35 pm

I believe the covenant was moved with the support of Christie's family. I suspect they could only move it again with their support.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Billy bodger » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:53 pm

Wild Bill wrote:I believe the covenant was moved with the support of Christie's family. I suspect they could only move it again with their support.


Fair enough, understandable.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby redrobo » Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:09 pm

KenH wrote:
marky No.1 wrote:They don't need to throw crazy amounts of money at it to improve the situation, just build a club with facilities that can pay for itself.


That's what PMG tried to do and failed miserably due to sheer incompetence.

Someone famous with money is no guarantee of better financial management than PMG.

We need a proper entreprenneur to come in and shake everything up, get new income streams flowing, make far better use of our facilities, etc. Not a "sleb" with a bit of money.


A proper experienced marketing professional who has done it elsewhere and wants a clean canvas with no baggage needs to come in and have complete control of all things marketing. Not someone who says 'I can do that' and then fails miserably. Give that person the authority to do what they see as being necessary with no interference from within.

Not likely to happen but it is the only way our club can even hope to be on the pathway to self funding.

A 'selb' would be nice but they would want some exposure to warrant their investment.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby Brian Sheldon » Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:37 am

I agree with you Neil :o

I've only given the club an email address in the last week through the club's separate ticketing app and it's received 14 marketing emails this morning. Checked the techie details, all sent within seconds of each other at 7:05 so they've not been stuck somewhere for a month. They range from Port Vale tickets to Easter Monday so nonrelevant.

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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby black morse » Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:32 am

The sooner JW gets the message that a good percentage of fans are no longer going to fund him the better.
Getting very close to the time when the undecided will have to make a decision.
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Re: 'Not A Penny More' Campaign?

Postby KenH » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:26 am

Wild Bill wrote:I believe the covenant was moved with the support of Christie's family. I suspect they could only move it again with their support.


It'll depend on who are the trustee of the JBC Trust. They may well be family, they may be professionals such as a solicitor. "Someone" will be in control of it, i.e. the trustees and they have to comply with the original terms of the trust when it was first set up, which can only be varied by the Courts.
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