o/t Julian Assange, dirty tricks?

Re: o/t Julian Assange, dirty tricks?

Postby Posh » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:53 pm

Keith wrote:
shrimpnsave wrote:What i cant get my head around where the hell is all this info coming from ????????????????


A Lady Ga Ga fan who is looking at some very serious prison time.

AKA a US soldier who had unrestricted access to a shed load of information. He thought it was wrong that it was being suppressed so he copied files on to a blank disk. He had headphones on and was 'singing along to Lady Gaga' to disguise the fact that he was putting recordable disks in to the machine.


Three million US citizens had access to all 250,000 diplomatic cables through their work. If it was easy for a young soldier to download you can guarantee that the Chinese, Russians or Israelis or all three have managed to acquire these files, long before Wikileaks ever distributed them.
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Re: o/t Julian Assange, dirty tricks?

Postby Keith » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:19 pm

Peter wrote:What's the only way 3 people can keep a secret?


Shoot two of them?
Make sure they were all in the same bed?

Posh wrote:Three million US citizens had access to all 250,000 diplomatic cables through their work. If it was easy for a young soldier to download you can guarantee that the Chinese, Russians or Israelis or all three have managed to acquire these files, long before Wikileaks ever distributed them.


:lol: :lol: :lol: I hadn't heard that! So yes, this wasn't that secret. Even our spy services could break in to that pool!
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Re: o/t Julian Assange, dirty tricks?

Postby shrimpnsave » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:12 pm

that guy is innocent of the alleged

and sweden is a nuetral country :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: o/t Julian Assange, dirty tricks?

Postby wijit » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:50 am

There was a situation, years ago, I am very reliably informed, whereby the locations of the top IRA men were known to the Army. The choice was simple; Go and kill them, or let them live. Had they killed them, all the intelligence used to find them was lost, they'd have to start again to find the new top men. There would've been a huge queue to fill those posts by English hating republicans.
Now, Assange, they know what he will release, they're not stupid enough to not know what's been downloaded. Having access does not mean somebody will access it at once. Somebody didn't just look at it, they downloaded it. They know what will be released, they just don't know when. He has been in prison for a few days, but his site hasn't stopped. As long as they know what he's up to, they know he is doing the uploads. Imprison him and they need to look far harder.
I don't care if he's a perv or not, he is dangerous, simply because he's releasing this information regardless of if it is already known. He doesn't care for the consequences to others. He doesn't care how much work will be needed to repair diplomatic relations.
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Re: o/t Julian Assange, dirty tricks?

Postby Keith » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:30 pm

durhamshrimp wrote:You may have Iraq as your own little Vietnam but for most people in this country there are bigger issues. Letting the Tories (who agreed with the war anyway) in because people are unhappy with Tony Blair is cutting cutting off the nose to spite the face.


I know Marky & durhamshrimp don't think the killing of innocent foreign people is as important as VAT going up to 20% but for those with a wider mind, The War You Don't See is an excellent documentary by John Pilger which looks at the manipulation and complicity of the media in our wars. Interesting to hear Bliar being interviewed by Andrew Marr, ramping up the same rhetoric about Iran and nuclear weapons as the lies he spouted about Iraq's WMD's.

Available until early January...

http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=198443

Coincidentally, they used the same video from 'Collateral Damage' and the same photo from My Lai that I referred to earlier.
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