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Maggie Thatcher became Prime Minister - All is forgiven

Mick Hogarth was manager (just) and we finished 18th in the Northern Premier League!

The future is bright

marky No.1 wrote:Maggie Thatcher became Prime Minister - All is forgiven

Not sure about that!

Keith wrote:

marky No.1 wrote:Maggie Thatcher became Prime Minister - All is forgiven

Not sure about that!

Hmm she maybe got the Community Charge wrong but she had bigger balls than Brown and she gave us Spitting Image Brought us out of the gloom at the time, not disimilar to the current climate. Certainly don't fancy Ms. Harman

"Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope."

This sounds useful to some on here

She sorted out Arthur Scargill and the unions and for that the country has benefitted without doubt.

Screwed up the health service and mental health in particular. Closed 'asylums' without properly planning how to support people with mental health problems in the community. Sold the land to Sainsbury or housing developers but instead of ringfencing the money raised to mental health services, gave it away in 'tax cuts'.

Took on Scargill (who was an arse) but having 'won' then took great delight in punishing the communities involved, including closing profitable pits. Manufactured a war to enable her to be re-elected. Are all right wingers also warmongers? Thatcher, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bliar?

And she took away our free milk at school, that was the 1st time i got made redundant

Keith wrote:Sold the land to Sainsbury

She is'nt the only one! Although M.F.C. will get away with it saying half the fans we are accommodating are mental

marky No.1 wrote:

Keith wrote:Sold the land to Sainsbury

She is'nt the only one! Although M.F.C. will get away with it saying half the fans we are accommodating are mental

Ahh... but Morecambe FC are ring-fencing the cash to improve services

Keith wrote:

marky No.1 wrote:

Keith wrote:Sold the land to Sainsbury

She is'nt the only one! Although M.F.C. will get away with it saying half the fans we are accommodating are mental

Ahh... but Morecambe FC are ring-fencing the cash to improve services

It's Sammy that needs ring-fencing at the moment

Keith wrote:Screwed up the health service and mental health in particular. Closed 'asylums' without properly planning how to support people with mental health problems in the community. Sold the land to Sainsbury or housing developers but instead of ringfencing the money raised to mental health services, gave it away in 'tax cuts'.

Took on Scargill (who was an arse) but having 'won' then took great delight in punishing the communities involved, including closing profitable pits. Manufactured a war to enable her to be re-elected. Are all right wingers also warmongers? Thatcher, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bliar?

Hear, here!

Crimson Crust wrote:

Keith wrote:Screwed up the health service and mental health in particular. Closed 'asylums' without properly planning how to support people with mental health problems in the community. Sold the land to Sainsbury or housing developers but instead of ringfencing the money raised to mental health services, gave it away in 'tax cuts'.

Took on Scargill (who was an arse) but having 'won' then took great delight in punishing the communities involved, including closing profitable pits. Manufactured a war to enable her to be re-elected. Are all right wingers also warmongers? Thatcher, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bliar?

Hear, here!

Agreed.
There was no "Care in the community" set up, just loads of vunerable patients dumped into
crappy bed and breakfasts with no further help, left to self-medicate and look after themselves.
I wasn't surprised when headlines of "man dies trying to pet lions at zoo" appeared.
The 2,3,4 car families she wanted to produce are now all taxed to the hilt, and now the residents of various pit communities are free to grasp the spirit of entreprenuership selling
heroin to each other.
When people talk about having monuments to her, I always think of the money that could
be saved by painting her name on every farm slurry midden in the country.

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:She sorted out Arthur Scargill

Scargill sorted himself out by not having a ballot. Had he done so the miners, by then united, and with the rest of the union and Labour movement behind them, would have won. By not holding a ballot it left the miners, the public and the left divided Thatcher just drove a politicised and incredibly violent police force and their horses through the gap.

Posh wrote:

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:She sorted out Arthur Scargill

Scargill sorted himself out by not having a ballot. Had he done so the miners, by then united, and with the rest of the union and Labour movement behind them, would have won. By not holding a ballot it left the miners, the public and the left divided Thatcher just drove a politicised and incredibly violent police force and their horses through the gap.

Scargill was never going to hold a ballot.

Are you saying that if Maggie hadn't come along there would still be lots of coal mines open with 220,000 miners working in them?

How many mines did the Labour Party re-open when they came into power ?

Posh wrote:

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:She sorted out Arthur Scargill

Scargill sorted himself out by not having a ballot. Had he done so the miners, by then united, and with the rest of the union and Labour movement behind them, would have won. By not holding a ballot it left the miners, the public and the left divided Thatcher just drove a politicised and incredibly violent police force and their horses through the gap.

Scargill was an idiot.

Miners...
Coal...
Heating & Electricity...

So let's have a semi-national strike during the summer months??? If they'd started in September/October they would have made it through to the start of a second winter, which may have been enough to swing it.

Keith wrote:

Posh wrote:

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:She sorted out Arthur Scargill

Scargill sorted himself out by not having a ballot. Had he done so the miners, by then united, and with the rest of the union and Labour movement behind them, would have won. By not holding a ballot it left the miners, the public and the left divided Thatcher just drove a politicised and incredibly violent police force and their horses through the gap.

Scargill was an idiot.

Miners...
Coal...
Heating & Electricity...

So let's have a semi-national strike during the summer months??? If they'd started in September/October they would have made it through to the start of a second winter, which may have been enough to swing it.

and if my Aunt had nuts she'd be my Uncle !

The right side won.

I'm with Elvis Costello re. Thatcher. From "Tramp the Dirt Down" off the most excellent long player, 'Spike'

"And when they finally put you in the ground,
I'll stomp on your grave and tramp the dirt down."


Elvis wrote that song around 1985 or 86 and he was interviewed not too long ago asking if he still felt the same or had he forgiven her (as this thread has suggested). He said no and that when she does die he will dance a merry jig on her grave.

Right on, Elvis. Can I be your dance partner for that one? Does nobody remember what she did to The North of England ?

Scargill, not the miners held this country to ransom, give him his due though, he was a socialist years ahead of his time, like the pigs in animal farm, or the so called labour party we have now, by the way, does anyone know if our local mp s hoarding with her name on at christie park is paid for by herself, her party, or does it come out of here massive expenses, I suppose it matters not, any one of the three choices leads us to the tax payer

Right on, Elvis. Can I be your dance partner for that one? Does nobody remember what she did to The North of England ?

Form an orderly line and..................lets all do the conga

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:
and if my Aunt had nuts she'd be my Uncle !

The right side won.

I'm not actually denying that, I was deriding Scargill's basic tactical failure!

USA Shrimp wrote:I'm with Elvis Costello re. Thatcher. From "Tramp the Dirt Down" off the most excellent long player, 'Spike'

"And when they finally put you in the ground,
I'll stomp on your grave and tramp the dirt down."


Elvis wrote that song around 1985 or 86 and he was interviewed not too long ago asking if he still felt the same or had he forgiven her (as this thread has suggested). He said no and that when she does die he will dance a merry jig on her grave.

Right on, Elvis. Can I be your dance partner for that one? Does nobody remember what she did to The North of England ?

Well the 80's was the decade that music forgot and Costello was at the back end of the queue when talent was handed out.

HEYSHAM SHRIMP WROTE
Well the 80's was the decade that music forgot and Costello was at the back end of the queue when talent was handed out.




IS THIS A WIND UP BY HEYSHAM SHRIMP

I THINK YOU WOULD FIND THAT ELVIS COSTELLO, LOVE OR HATE HIM, IS A PROLIFIC SONGWRITER, MULTI TALENTED MUSICIAN, AND HIGHLY RESPECTED ALL ROUND MUSO BY ALOT OF HIS PEERS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT HEYSHAM SHRIMP SPENT THE EIGHTIES LISTENING TO TOO MUCH BANANARAMMA

PUNKISDEAD wrote:HEYSHAM SHRIMP WROTE
Well the 80's was the decade that music forgot and Costello was at the back end of the queue when talent was handed out.




IS THIS A WIND UP BY HEYSHAM SHRIMP

I THINK YOU WOULD FIND THAT ELVIS COSTELLO, LOVE OR HATE HIM, IS A PROLIFIC SONGWRITER, MULTI TALENTED MUSICIAN, AND HIGHLY RESPECTED ALL ROUND MUSO BY ALOT OF HIS PEERS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT HEYSHAM SHRIMP SPENT THE EIGHTIES LISTENING TO TOO MUCH BANANARAMMA

Preferred some real talent, Dire Straits etc
there was a load of rubbish music in the 80s and IMHO Costello was in that category.

PUNKISDEAD wrote:IS THIS A WIND UP BY HEYSHAM SHRIMP

I THINK YOU WOULD FIND THAT ELVIS COSTELLO, LOVE OR HATE HIM, IS A PROLIFIC SONGWRITER, MULTI TALENTED MUSICIAN, AND HIGHLY RESPECTED ALL ROUND MUSO BY ALOT OF HIS PEERS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT HEYSHAM SHRIMP SPENT THE EIGHTIES LISTENING TO TOO MUCH BANANARAMMA

Are you and Northstandshrimp2009 one and the same (caps lock)??? I guess I can't begrudge others double identities.

NO

I remember Maggie coming to power, within 3 months I was made redundant, she f*cked the north up good and proper