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I've written elsewhere that I think the only option we have, as fans, is to withhold funds, which hopefully will indicate to Whittingham that he needs to actually sell while he still has an asset. If he doesn't, then the club will go under anyway, as we couldn't survive a relegation to National League North, as income simply won't cover expenditure and debt. With Whittingham's ownership, we're got more two seasons, then we're gone.

Yes, 'Not a Penny More' will harm the club as well as Whittingham, but I'd rather that, than keep the parasite sucking us dry.

With a heavy heart, from next season, I will be 'Not a Penny More'.

However:

What if the 'Great Escape' happens and we retain our League status? I still think Whittingham will remain a leech, but, 'Not a Penny More' could result in administration and relegation from the EFL, in effect, at our own hands? I believe, if we're relegated from the EFL, we will not be back for a decade or more, so retaining our League status is massive. Therefore, I'd probably feel that it is Groundhog Day and we're re-running this season, but that would mean supporting the club, even with the lying crap owner.

A couple of games ago, this was almost irrelevant, but now, with a glimmer of hope, and Tranmere playing Accrington soon... ...what if we stay up?

Personally, I think 'NaPM', only if in National League.

I can wait for it to start, no matter what league we're in.

Andy D wrote:I can wait for it to start, no matter what league we're in.

Add your vote then! It will be interesting to see how people feel. Hopefully, it will still be relevant after the Harrogate game!!!

I'm pretty sure that the 1920Union launched a similar campaign a few weeks ago?

BerlinWaller wrote:I'm pretty sure that the 1920Union launched a similar campaign a few weeks ago?

They did yes, and the vocal minority on here disregarded it. The poll shows the those individuals are representative.

No surprise that I voted NO as I believe that any withdrawing of money by fans will do serious damage to OUR club. Jason doesn't give a stuff about any campaign and will be the only sauce of revenue that the BoDs can turn to at the end of a month when there is no money to pay bills etc.

Do fans really want to see the death of their club.....

redrobo wrote:No surprise that I voted NO as I believe that any withdrawing of money by fans will do serious damage to OUR club. Jason doesn't give a stuff about any campaign and will be the only sauce of revenue that the BoDs can turn to at the end of a month when there is no money to pay bills etc.

Do fans really want to see the death of their club.....

Respect your views but i'm not sure if you have taken any notice of the reasons for doing it.

BerlinWaller wrote:

redrobo wrote:No surprise that I voted NO as I believe that any withdrawing of money by fans will do serious damage to OUR club. Jason doesn't give a stuff about any campaign and will be the only sauce of revenue that the BoDs can turn to at the end of a month when there is no money to pay bills etc.

Do fans really want to see the death of their club.....

Respect your views but i'm not sure if you have taken any notice of the reasons for doing it.

I like everybody do understand the reasons for doing it ....we ALL want to see the back of the current owner. But I don't want to see the end of our club simply due to the inability of paying bills and wages etc if there is no money at the end of the month. The funding has to come from somewhere until the takeover is concluded which i repeat is imminent.

redrobo wrote:

BerlinWaller wrote:

redrobo wrote:No surprise that I voted NO as I believe that any withdrawing of money by fans will do serious damage to OUR club. Jason doesn't give a stuff about any campaign and will be the only sauce of revenue that the BoDs can turn to at the end of a month when there is no money to pay bills etc.

Do fans really want to see the death of their club.....

Respect your views but i'm not sure if you have taken any notice of the reasons for doing it.

I like everybody do understand the reasons for doing it ....we ALL want to see the back of the current owner. But I don't want to see the end of our club simply due to the inability of paying bills and wages etc if there is no money at the end of the month. The funding has to come from somewhere until the takeover is concluded which i repeat is imminent.

IF it really is imminent then there will be no reason to resort to NAPM but I'll be amazed it is!

Nothing changes until a credible buyer takes over the club.

Not being horrible Neil but your spouting bollocks could create false hope and do a lot of damage. Hope you are are right after you have put your neck on the line

redrobo wrote:I don't want to see the end of our club simply due to the inability of paying bills and wages etc if there is no money at the end of the month. The funding has to come from somewhere until the takeover is concluded which i repeat is imminent.

If the sale is "imminent", then you can safely support the 'Not a Penny More', because the sale will be completed in time, and the NaPM campaign will end before any damage is done.

However...

If the sale doesn't go through (yet again!) how do you see it playing out, if we're relegated to National League? Do you think we will have a competitive budget next season? Or, will we be in another relegation battle?

Without a NaPM campaign, and no sale going through, what next?

redrobo wrote:No surprise that I voted NO as I believe that any withdrawing of money by fans will do serious damage to OUR club. Jason doesn't give a stuff about any campaign and will be the only sauce of revenue that the BoDs can turn to at the end of a month when there is no money to pay bills etc.

Do fans really want to see the death of their club.....

Completely missing the point. Do nothing, sit on your hands, hope for the best and you're not going to have a football club.

Question for Neil.
If the board stepped down on mass and Jason had to find his new board.
Would you still buy a season ticket?

Keith wrote:I've written elsewhere that I think the only option we have, as fans, is to withhold funds, which hopefully will indicate to Whittingham that he needs to actually sell while he still has an asset. If he doesn't, then the club will go under anyway, as we couldn't survive a relegation to National League North, as income simply won't cover expenditure and debt. With Whittingham's ownership, we're got more two seasons, then we're gone.

Yes, 'Not a Penny More' will harm the club as well as Whittingham, but I'd rather that, than keep the parasite sucking us dry.

With a heavy heart, from next season, I will be 'Not a Penny More'.

However:

What if the 'Great Escape' happens and we retain our League status? I still think Whittingham will remain a leech, but, 'Not a Penny More' could result in administration and relegation from the EFL, in effect, at our own hands? I believe, if we're relegated from the EFL, we will not be back for a decade or more, so retaining our League status is massive. Therefore, I'd probably feel that it is Groundhog Day and we're re-running this season, but that would mean supporting the club, even with the lying crap owner.

A couple of games ago, this was almost irrelevant, but now, with a glimmer of hope, and Tranmere playing Accrington soon... ...what if we stay up?

Personally, I think 'NaPM', only if in National League.

I'm interested in the 'low turnout' taking part in this poll so have had a rough check of number of individual SV's post on here. Approximately 50 SV's post on here often or fairly regularly, plus about 5 who take part in the Prediction League.

That's 55 and only 10 have made their vote on the NAPM poll at this time. This thread is a guide for one of the most important decisions facing our fans in years. Have the other 45 not read this thread yet, not decided yet, think it's a useless gesture or simply don't care?

You need an undecided button Keith.

I've k now there are lots of people who are undecided and I'm glad that there is. What ever people's actions they take doesn't change one thing. We all care about our football club massively.
I'm not shying away from the fact that I'm in the NAPM camp and I hope loads join us for it to have a massive impact on Jason.

Just received another reminder from the Trust to vote on their members poll.
The deadline is 10pm tomorrow so hopefully we should have the result by Thursday.

Hodgie1978 wrote:Question for Neil.
If the board stepped down on mass and Jason had to find his new board.
Would you still buy a season ticket?

I support the players on the field not the current owner who is a sh*t house.....so YES I would continue to buy a season ticket if only to guarantee being able to sit where i do now.

I haven't supported my club for 67 years to no longer attend games in the false hope that any campaign will have the desired effect on him. In fact for me the campaign will do more damage to our club who will have to rely on the owner for even greater finance to keep going. Others will disagree.

I respect all those who will support the campaign but I doubt that it will have any truck with the owner who i feel doesn't give a toss about the fans especially those who will support the campaign.

Old Man Kensey wrote:Just received another reminder from the Trust to vote on their members poll.
The deadline is 10pm tomorrow so hopefully we should have the result by Thursday.

In the most recent minutes I think they reported only 13% of members had answered the poll. Which they then correctly point out is nowhere near enough to take any action on.

Link to it here for anyone that needs it. You'll need to enter your membership number. If you're not a member then there really isn't going to be a better time to sign up, situations like this is why the trust was started in the first place.

https://shrimpstrust.us15.list-manage.c ... cea1afe71f

What about the 1920Union...how many members are also members of ShrimpsVoices and have they/will they be casting their vote here to give us a more accurate figure?

twosheds wrote:What about the 1920Union...how many members are also members of ShrimpsVoices and have they/will they be casting their vote here to give us a more accurate figure?

If they are under 30 they will never have heard of Shrimpsvoices!

Anybody want to vote?

BerlinWaller wrote:

twosheds wrote:What about the 1920Union...how many members are also members of ShrimpsVoices and have they/will they be casting their vote here to give us a more accurate figure?

If they are under 30 they will never have heard of Shrimpsvoices!

yep, and vast majority are more passionate and are like #napm

The one way out of our terrible predicament is if Tyson would take over the club. As has been proved with a number of other clubs investment by famous people leads to success and I'm sure that the investors have recouped at least some of their money from the documentaries that have been made. Tyson is the big name that could create this. I don't think it will happen but for those who still have hope for the future it would be fantastic if it did.

Come on vote and to help you contemplate what is at stake here is a bit of guidance:-

Remember what James Wakefield said recently, “without a change in ownership it will be another Groundhog Day. A change in League is not necessarily the end but a continuation under the same ownership is worse”.

CME ON VOTE.